Sat 3 Feb 2007
These days we wonder what is it that women really want? I mean I’m not talking about the Mel Gibson movie, I’m talking about what is it that women want in a man? Is it perhaps a manner-challenged, abusive, soap opera jackass? No!! Of course they don’t want to be anywhere near a guy of that quality. All jokes aside though, we all know that the typical nice guy is probably going to get shafted, while the jackass, is probably cruising along the streets with his girlfriend en route to the hottest night spot. Why is that though you ask? What’s the difference between your typical nice guy and the jackass that treats women like the unwanted toe nail clippings. Simple really, it’s this: Nice guys are just awfully insecure.
When a woman meets another man, what most likely goes on in her head is two scenarios. The first one is the relationship scenario while the second one being the scenario of friendship (and that’s where the nice guys normally end up). This scenario I’ve seen happen many a times in front of me and around me. Don’t believe me?? The next time you meet a girl, try being real nice, and see if you can pursue a relationship with this new girl. Back to what I was saying, nice guys mostly end up being good friends to the women and nothing more will come of it. There’s absolutely nothing wrong with being a nice guy, it’s just that life is going to be unbearable when you’re going to be disheartened. Perhaps the most off putting realisation for the nice guys is that they have to wait until they’re damn near thirty-something for a woman to finally wake up and leave the jackass she once called her boyfriend or husband, finally deciding that all along the nice guy was what she was yearning for.
Nice guys will do anything at a drop of a dime for the women, perhaps it’s to gain recognition, attention and acknowledge that they’re the sweetest guys around. Let’s take a scenario of where the nice guy friend is out clubbing with his desired woman. The woman asks the nice guy friend to get a drink for her at the bar, while she goes and does her own thing with the guys she’s been scoping out. The nice guys mentality is to straight away get the drink, hoping that in doing so his chances will dramatically increase with the woman. To top it off the nice guy has already started off on the wrong track, because nice guys are just dull and predictable. Traits that no women certainly hold with high esteem. What they want is a man that will offer them a sense of adventure, excitement and to be spontaneous. But that doesn’t stop the women from using the nice guys to their benefit. Let’s say that a woman has had a terrible day, or just going through some relationship issues. Who is she going to turn to? The nice guy of course, and no doubt he’ll be there to comfort her and ease her woes. She does this instinctively, knowing that he’ll always be there, regardless of what time it is, or what he’s doing. To make matters worse, the nice guy is always going to keep his thoughts to himself and never speak his mind. He does this because, should he act on how he feels, then it may jeopardise the friendship that the nice guy and woman has. The result is that the woman basically makes the nice guy her own personal slave.
The typical nice guy makes matters worse for himself as he may have the urge to go overboard at times. He may bring flowers to a date, tries to woo her with gifts, and thinks he knows all there is about romance. This of course all leads to heartbreaks and even more frustrations as his attempts go unnoticed. The nice guy would then think to himself of why did it go oh so wrong, and be convinced that she was the one. And perhaps the nice guy is the ideal guy for the woman, but what chance does he have when all the woman does is party with the jackass.
We all know the jackasses. We see him all the time around work, school, the mall, restaurants, etc. Heck, some of us are the jackass or at the very least have a close friend that is one. Women seem to be fascinated with the whole bad boy image. They want a man with a presence like The Fonz from Happy Days or Tony Montana in Scarface. Why is this though? Is it because both display a certain type of personality? Take into consideration that jackasses treat women with little or no respect at all, while on the opposite end of the spectrum, nice guys give women the world. Jackasses are blunt and cocky; they tell it how it is. Just imagine a beautiful girl at a bar alone. A nice guy has the courage to walk up to her and tells her how amazingly beautiful she is. He makes small talk and offers to buy her a drink. The girl’s immediate reaction is to reject him since she knows she has the upper hand and can control this nice guy. It’s too easy for her, she probably hears it all the time from guys that she is beautiful, and it just tends to bore them since it is so repetitive. Girls like to be challenged. While on the other hand, the jackass walks up to the girl and tells her that she has something stuck in between her teeth or something similiar to that effect and walks away. The approach he has taken is a “neg” to the girl and is unexpected. She will be insecure and rather upset for a while, but for the rest of the night she will have her eyes on him. The way a jackass acts is completely different from the nice guy, and women notice this. The jackass will be the alpha male in society, all mighty and all-powerful. Power is something that attracts females. Thus the outcome, the jackass gets the girl.
Just because you’re a jackass, doesn’t mean you can’t have positive attributes however. Jackasses can be said to be confident, mysterious in a way, strong, unpredictable, dominating, and presenting a challenge to girls. Negative features can come in the form of the jackass being emotionally and physically abusive, foolish and socially intolerable. Notice that the positive features of the jackass are attributes that usually draw females, while their negative features are the ones that usually come out over time? In both cases, women get something they can’t from the nice guys.
This blog is not about how women are evil and cruel to the nice guy. Reality is that nice guys don’t like themselves. How can a woman like a nice guy when the nice guy does not like himself? Jackasses are already cocky and they have that mentality that every girl out there wants them. Insecurity doesn’t apply to them but to the nice guys, and insecurity is a turn off to most women. So it’s tough luck for the nice guys who do their best but as the saying goes, “nice guys finish last” while the jackass sips his beer with one hand and puts his arm around his girl with the other.
What I’ve learned though is that the roles can be interchangeable . A nice guy can be a jackass sometimes and vice versa. So to all the nice guys out there, stop being so damn nice! Be spontaneous, be different, and break the barriers of insecurity holding you back.
February 3rd, 2007 at 4:07 am
so true…yet so gay since im a nice guy. You girls are one stupid race.
February 5th, 2007 at 11:05 pm
[…] far, he’s blogged about the “first time” (sex, of course!), and about nice guys and what do women really want. Hey, you are stealing my material […]
February 6th, 2007 at 12:28 am
Haha, ok can I just say that I didn’t even know you wrote about your first time nor nice guys. I can’t help it if great minds think alike you know =p.
February 6th, 2007 at 7:44 pm
I followed a link from mooiness’s blog (which I regularly read and comment on) and thought you might like a female perspective on the ‘nice guy’ and ‘bad boy’ debate.
Me personally I like someone in-between and I think a lot of girls are the same. I like some qualities of the bad boy: confidence, independence, outgoing personality, fun, risk-taking etc. Plus they often have the advantage of being physically attractive. However, i’m not the type of girl to hang around if a guy treats me like shit. I don’t like arrogant assholes and I don’t date them.
I also like some qualities of the typical ‘nice-guy’: attentive, caring, giving etc. However, one problem with the typical ‘nice guy’ as you said, is lack of confidence and self-esteem. And I find those qualities very unattractive. Some ‘nice guys’ I find to be very clingy and needy as well. Not sexy at all.
Hence the reason girls tend to lean towards the ‘bad boy’. They prefer the confidence projected by the bad boy than the neediness and insecurity projected by the nice guy.
Me personally I tend to go for guys that are nice, genuine, giving people however also are confident, independent and maybe a bit of a risk-taker. THe in-between. Hey, I’m just speaking for myself here but this is my personal opinion. I want a guy who is there for me during the tough times, makes me feel good about myself and treats me like a princess YET ALSO gives me space to see my friends, and have my own life, doesn’t constantly seek my approval and need me to boost his self-esteem and doesn’t smother me. Also, I don’t want someone who worships the ground I walk on so much that I have no respect for him.
So in a nutshell, that is MY opinion…hope this helps
February 6th, 2007 at 8:22 pm
Nah man, I only meant that I write about sex and relationships too.
As for this post, I don’t even analyse it as much anymore. If you like a girl, you ask her out very early on. If she likes you, then she’d say yes. And you won’t fall into the “friends” category by being too nice.
If she plays mind games, then you know to back off.
Plenty of girls in the world methinks - no need to put ourselves through mental torture and anguish, just move on. If she likes you, there’s no effort in it at all.
February 6th, 2007 at 9:54 pm
girlstar7, I totally agree with you, it’s always good to find guys who are a balance of nice and with a touch of the bad boy streak in them. I can also see that the typical nice guy can be boring and it’ll just take time for him to evolve. You know it’s good to see that you dump the guys that’ll treat you like shit because I know some girls that are just blind and still hang around. Thanks for your thoughts, they are most appreciated.
Mooiness, I get you now, you pretty much have everything that I wanted to write about covered, keep up the good work ^^. Definitely true about putting yourself out there on the limb. No girl is worth that at all.
February 8th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Totally agree with GirlStar7 - who wants to be treated like c**p and hang out with an abusive man - life is too short!
Lots of females have a healthy esteem and on discovering that the guy they’re seeing is an ass - wouldn’t hesitate to “kick him to the curb” (despite how much it may hurt on first realisation).
“Treat someone well & expect to be treated well” - is certainly my motto!.
February 8th, 2007 at 8:04 pm
Yes, it’s true women do have a lot of confidence and it certainly shows. But what I am saying is would you go out with a nice guy who does the things that I mentioned? Or is that too much?
February 20th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
Know this is a bit of late comment but this post is to true. I was a nice guy, I still am in the general sense, but to women now a I’m just a guy, love me or leave I don’t give a f**k anymore, I’m not going to bend over backwards to make you happy, you don’t like it, move on.
It took me a long time to learn that if you are too nice all the time you get no respect, and if people don’t respect you don’t get anywhere in life or anything you want. This is true between men and even more acute between men and women.
I don’t mean you have to be a jerk but nice guys do finish last, personally I’m sick to death of not getting what I want, life is to short.
Nice blog by the way, I see Marcus got to you to